PROJECT BLUE BOOK

THE PRESS: on
the radar?
CAPTAIN JAMES: It has to be in the area :cou
the radar set. It has to be within the range.
THE PRESS: But not in the air.
CAPTAIN JAMES: But not in the air.
THE PRESS gets give these
reflections?.
CAPTAIN V JAMES: It depends on the amount
inversion and the size an a shape of the ground objects.
THE PRESS: Would this reflection account for
simultaneous radar sightings and visual sightings which
due the same e effects.
THE PRESS: Why would these tempe ersions
change location so rapidly or travel?
CAPTAIN JAMES:. Well, actually, it can be the
appearance or diseppearence of different ground targets
giving the appearance of something:moving when, actually,
the different objects are standing still.
THE PRESS: Would these pseu
at all?

bank that refl target?
CAPTAIN JAMES: Well, actually, it's not a cloud
bank. It's temperature inversion the atmosphere. You
see, if warm air comes in over a cool area, you have
temperature inversion and the atmosphere can be perfectly
clear, an the rays will be bent.
THE PRESS: Would that account for the fact that
these images disappeared ppear screens
recently?
CAPTAIN that. There's
THE PRESS: Captain, was there temperature inversion
CAPTAIN JAMES: There was.
THE PRESS: And the Saturday night preceding?
CAPTAIN JAMES: I'm not sure preceding,
but there was last Saturday night.
.
THE PRESS: Was there one last night?
CAPTAIN JAMES: I don't know.
THE PRESS: Captain, did any two sets in this area
get a fix on these so-called saucers around here?
CAPTAIN JAMES: The information good
enough determine that.

on them and
these n you come this one
is reported e dore thillas woict reauire f
those wo conditions, e maximum
power If this is' a thing in terms guided
missile, ese things that easured and
reported i. do those things
no limit to the power involved and there is theoretically no
mass involved. That's one of the conditions that would say,
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question. It satisfies $ome meybe it.
Yes?
THE PRESS: Have there been any such instances so
far in which you had information that indicated the either
of these conditions were fulfilled?
1 THE PRESS: No limit

used to
THE PRESS: General, do you have eny tentative con-
clusion even owards a belief of what these local
radar blips are? Ther been talk that you did have the
heat inversions thos re you all
that's at that is?
MAJOR CENERAL SAMFORD: I think that we 're learning
progressively more and more about the radar and that these
instances·very likely y are maybe good observatioys that the
radar can make of something but not likely to observations
of the things that the radar was desigred to observe (laughter).
to observe aircraft for control of aircraft ard to deal with
aircraft. Now, you may have scientifi observa-
tion that it wasn't intended
I wonder if you'd that,
Captain James, whether something
ing about.
CAPTAIN JAMES: Yes, sir; that's quite true. We
find that sometimes the radar set will be formed a manner
not desirable and due to the fact that it doesn't happer every
sometimes turns out mystery.

mixed up thin hich we've
had many interceptions the went out and id
that should hi re been established by some method, but
mixed up with hose there've many attempts to
identify an unknown that fizzled out that the
current ones ha fizzled out.
THE PRESS: In other words. it is not a rare phenomenon,
this thing that happened Saturday night and the Saturday before
trying find at causes
Pha Yes, sir.
THE PRESS: General Samford, has the Air Force
conducted any independent research through universities or
throug Che radar I Gl lfillen people or whoever?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: Yes, sir. We have a number
of available consultants, some contracts that have been
initiated, some of that are being thought but, again,

substance was s light made? What gases burning? Was
it gas? incandescence? Now, those
cameras -- the grid is,
order a small
able to
distribute thos oto the hands might have
opportunity. Now, with th great diversity of people who
report it's ot too easy t put your finger on who has the
the origin
CAPTAIN
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: that it
hasn't been aimed specifically at cused on
these items as far as we know,
. THE PRESS: General, the monent
ago or thought that inversion

equal competence, it would appear, discred the gamble
as to whether that is the cause or
proposition does satisfy certnin oncerns.
Is that a or answer question?
CAPTAIN Sir, mainly
to ligh rays.
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFOF Yes.
CAPTAIN JAMES:  In regard the temperature inversion
effect on radar waves the at is fairly w il established.
THE FRESS: T There's about ter, is
there?
CAPTAIN JAMES: That's right.
THE PRESS: That's been established.
S
THE PRESS: battle during the
war in which there was agegement fought against an
inversion of radar?
CAPTAIN JAMES: I understand appened.
'THE PRESS: · You had two expert there last
Saturday night, Major Fournet and Lieuten Holcomb, who

have an identity and you ce precision.
unction. of incdequate
radar operations I think: thing any
radar operatc If he sees somethin e and says,
"That one i either behaving nor any othe normal pattern."
What is it uriosity stimulus, any other nd of stimulus
can result veremphasis a any particular time on any
radarscope. These recently ppear to have been much more
solid returns than are ordinarily classifiable by the argu-
THE PRESS: Yes think? That
was question.
MAJOR GENERAI
THE PRESS: The ones that Saturday night.
What did they report to you?
THE PRESS: Two of them saw it
THE PRESS: What did they say?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMF RD: They they made good
returns. T

MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: think?
THE PRESS: Yes.
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: think that the highest
probability is that these are phenomena associated with the
intellectual and scientific interests that we are on the road
to learn more about but that there is nothing in them that is
associated with material or vehicles or missiles that are
directed against the United States.
THE PRESS: General. you that can you stop
that short of the United menace to the
United States?
THE PRESS: Can you stor short of
your menace to the United States?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: Well, that
think that is the part that I believed. Now, what was it
that I would have said otherwise?
+ THE PRESS: Well, you said associated
with hicles --
THE PRESS: M Materials.
THE PRESS: Missiles. .
THE PRESS: P Period!

and the
complete abs things which would have to be in their
appearance fo or many days and months to come from somewhere
else. It doesn't cause them to have any enthusiasm whatsoever
in thinking about
THE PRESS: Have any astronomical laboratories . re-
porte Cings wh tronomers?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: don't recall. Captain
Ruppelt, do you know whether we've had repo astronomical
laboratories or observatories?
CAPTAIN RUPPELT: No, sir. None have ever had any
materials of our own making, they wouldn't be menace to
the United e that?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD:

Captain Roy James, Electronics Branch,
Air Technical Int ligence Center
Captain Edward Ruppelt, Aerial Phenomeron
Branch, Air Teck Intelligence Center
Mr. Burgoyne Griffing, Electroni Branch,
Air Technical
:. -
MR. SCHOOLEY: Ladies me remind
the military that, while they are welcome here, this is a
press cor 's be sure that the press is all
seated befor oegins
The Air Force feels a very
identify and analyze that happen in the air that may
have in them menace United States and, because of that
feeling our pursuit of that interest, since
1947, we actiyity one ti as Project
Saucer and now, as part of another more stable and integrated
organization, ave undertaken nalyze between a thousand 1003857

material, or object that is. in the air, regardless of whether
MAJOR GENERAL SAM
THE PRESS: In othe: T isn't there.
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: believe that, that there
is no -- well, now, that is a little bit in error because a
minute ago I said birds do these things. Now, a bird has
substance, you see. I don't want to go out and say that these
say that.
THE PRESS: You didn't mean to say it?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: I meant to say that, when
you talk about simultaneously, somebody will it on
THE PRESS: Well. I'd like to this fact
that the office station at Andrews

split-second people to say you've co prove now
that this happened ch-and-such a time and they'll say
your observations are delayed by half a second; herefore,
you can't
THE PRESS: And Inver plain
away that situation?
CAPTAIN JAMES: It poSsibly -
CAPPATN .TAMES
areas? Doesn't your map e Iright Field show that?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: find no more pattern in
this dispersal o than in a radar screen. You
can perhaps take distribution sightings and say that you
arrange it this way and yo during this period
and that gives you a dispersal ay hay some significance
in it. But I'd like tc velop'that

out to be balloons, etc., but may be the he story has
gone out that those are vital areas and are re-
porting.
THE PRESS: What percentege vour une ainable
ones you've got are around there?
CAPTAIN RUPPELT: A few of them.
THE PRESS;
CAPTAIN RUPPELT: I. wouldn every sighting
around an atomic installation is really
no don't quite follow you. :
h6 CAPTAIN RUPPELT: Tt followed the general percentages.
In other words, i twenty per cent of the sightings are un-
: explained, twenty per cen the sightings arour Los Alamos
are --
THE PRESS: Unexplained.
CAPIAIN ined; right.
THE PRESS: What percentage have come from
technical men ations?

instance at Los Alamos, th or ble,
reported ese things?
CAPTAIN RUPPELT: Yes; they have reports
from very people.
THE PRESS: your
these technical people, the
Air For Lke to have:
CAPTAIN RUPPELT: The have
can swer, sir?
MAJOR GE ahead.
-
CAPTAIN RUPPELT: like to have
a size, speed hese things.
let's take a meteor-like example. If you're out
some night and you tell me about that
meteor? direction it was going.
Actually, it maybe going across the
You're just looking
at a horizontal projection And a scientist
the same way. Just beceus a scientist doesn't mean he's
got better eyes.

THE PRESS: Have you investigated so-called
saucers here in Washington?
THE PRESS: The ones we been seeing here radar
sereens.
CAPTAIN N RUPPELT: them.
.
THE PRESS: Have you
CAPTAIN RUPPELT: e 1 mean by that,
now -- gone e out and personally people?
THE PRESS: Yes.
CAPTAIN RUPPELT: No; I haven't.
THE PRESS: Has anybody Air Force talked
to Harry Barnes, wh radar?
you have in mind as a possible way identifying.
and measuring these phenomena?
MAJOR GENERAL is here from
the Electronics Section Would you yourself that,
Mr. Griffing? 114
MR. GRIFFI T
nal
hiang
yeows,

THE PRESS: than this camera? Are there
any now?
MR. GRIFFING: There is another proposal which also
uses de-fraction grating, which is a ce nuously operating
Schmidt telescope, and nuous record over
the night.
What's
THE PRESS: That's a telescope the
entire heaven in one whole picture?
MR. GRIFFING: Yes, Sir.
be photographed
in one plate a continual record of what
hat-have-you
and make a
THE PRESS: Where . used?

fact, a longer ontinual record will be made. Any
motion that can n be indicated w: be found
curacy.
THE PRESS to any of
those right now?
n
MR. GRIFF
duction yet.
THE FR
MR. GRIFFING: into it. General?
countermeasures being used by Air Command
bombers practicing?
MAJOR GENERAL. SAMEORD:
investigated that
THE FRESS:  Is that Schmidt camera telescope the
only one, astronomical telesc pable used
on a
MAJOR GENERAL Probably not.

ments of time are one thing ar angle
can be made by trained people with paratus, and
they can es high.
THE PRESS: Haven't we already some trained
personnel, so-called traine hese
appearances?
:
5 MR. GRIFFING: There perhaps have -- Captain Ruppelt
can answer that. The point in any of these operations there
have to be two simultaneous observers to get altitude. You
be that two simultaneous
observatio reports.
mET ) onerel
to creditable ervers you a detailed
description?
MAJOR SAMFOR: It's very react
to as say important item.
THE FRESS some
things, as phenomena?

MAJOR
in the enomena! (Laughter)
THE PRESS General, while this mass of
areas for a minute telligent creature
had come up with etical problem of
levitation, would that not be massles observations
either
THE PRESS: balloon has no rate
of movement ctly limited
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: Well, I don't knoW whether
I can give any answer to that, sir, that makes any sense
THE PRESS: General Samford or perhaps General Ramey,
you have described fighters the District here in the last
few weeks. Is there any kind of policv 9a far as the rest of
the coun the A. ghtings?
SAMEORD:T would Ramey
to speak ease.

because he wouldn't kn w where to go O do
THE PRESS: In other'words, it was the decision of
the operations officer that occasioned and not any
error the alert.
MAJOR RAMEY: yes, sir.
THE PRESS: General, it's been rumored that the
Air Force has been for quite
awhile but waited until civilian radar picked it up. Is
what I wanted to ask.
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD; Well, I can only say that I
feel fairly sure that they were the same reasonably the
same.
THE PRESS: - igger?

which have reported briefly by elaborately by
others, but
thing or the phenomenor something that becomes
manageable 8 material f Kind of.analysi. know.
We take sc nese things est pro-
fessional advice can. and we're
in much the position of trying to bri good honest
workmen of science a piece of material that has no utility
because it doesn't have the kind of measurements on it that he
can use. And, as a cor onsequence, he has to reject these things
intellectua
appraise t sibilitye e United States.
And we
reveals anythir remotely purpos emotely like con-
sistency that way associ th any menace to
the United States.
Now, we do want to continue in the interests of
intellectual curiosity or the contributions to be made to
scientific measurements, but our main interest is going to

Captain were
larger, av e ago.
CAPTAIN JAMES: I said it depended
THE PRESS: I'm referring
night. Were those good returns? Could the good returns have
been caused this refl (inaudible)?
MAJOR GENERA hat
that is he
THE PRESS; that's probably
a threat to the safety of th
about turning this over to some other scientific investigating
body or something?
MAJOR SAMFORD Well. I think that we would
want to ay turn it over.
THE PRESS: Is there any thought that, bringing
in overnmental scien fic bodies perhaps?
- MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: Yes.

MAJOR GENERA ld
to , please
COLONEL BOWER: that is to implement our
present study with'ins wherever possible, as Mr. Griffing
mentioned, the refr amera and Ickups that we
might get.
THE PRESS: How many of been
order telescope?
COLONEL BOWER: The Schmidt telescopes are not on
order by us. The grid is which we
are --
you requires a study
need tech-
nical data. .ect th data and check
it against identified objects uch as balloons, if air-
craft or missiles meteors are following
that, and it mes back and we make analysis within
our own grou We have specialists in organizations,
people dynamics, physics and various

that might help in answering that problem When
to say this an obligation we must about, we
thought learn son from volume
of reports say we can get and
then see that through th maybe a pattern.
I think we're beginning things which
we can sense from volume ar things which
we value." In other words, volume can come from many different
suitable grist fc a scientifi The stuff we have
now hasn't enough interest scientific
people.
THE PRESS: Well, General, would you say a qualified
observer would pilot Castle -- I believe his
name was Lieutenant Patterson who got within what he
estimated was two miles Saturday? Have
you questioned him?

about it?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: YeS. He had motive; he had
direction; he had interest; he had opportunity. But he had no
measuring devices measure this thing, or these things that
need to.have measurement before it becom other
than a sighting.
THE his sigh
basis of
. MAJOR GENERAL Jot.necessarily. That very
likely is one that sits apart and says insufficient measurement,
insufficient association with other things,insufficient insuf-
ficient association with other probabilities for it t to do any
been light t hat he was' king at?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMF -
THE PRESS: Well ion as
a result of interrogat
MAJOR 'GENERAL SAMEORD: None other than that this is
aT one of the thousand
-
THE PRESS: General, this fellow that almost flew
into the ground, did he go around a corner as if on a bent
return? What were the circumstances of that flight?

around the corner. ground? Was that the
pattern?
CAPTAIN' JAMES: Yes; that's true. That was the
and he did that three times and each it led
him t same on the ground.
THE PRESS: Captain, wha saw
four lights, day night?
CAPTAIN JAMES: Well. I'll ptain
Ruppel
THE PRESS: General-
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: There's this difficulty.
May I make this statement? I was trying to '-- let's take
these reports and pull "woll what
THE PRESS: General, did you ty all of your,
per cent of the inexplainable reports a consistency
as t size, or speed, estimated speed?
. .
THE PRESS: None whatsoever?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: No.
THE PRESS: Have you ever tracked the speed radar
of any lar b.jec can explain?

and say, e light!"
THE PR Laughter)
THE PRESS: Pierman described it as a light that
was zooming and all such things and this was done not once
but Barnes told me he instructed him on that target three
times and then, Saturday night, this st Saturday night,
when they al. these blips, Barne vectored at least
a half dozen airline pilots and planes into these things and
then some did.
MAJOR n that.
THE s directing?
MAJOR can't all.
- think maybe -
THE PRESS: Have you investigated that phase of
this t thing, this vect the planes into that?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: You can investigate, but
the technique ocess mind-reading,

wavelength radar?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: · I couldn't say and I don't
know whether Captain James like to have him
have the opportunity.
CAPTAIN JAMES:
or short wavelength.. Iowever, the same effect can be observed
on long wavelength e
vavelength?
TAMES .
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORI enough
about say what was said C.
:
THE PRESS: Well, popular book made quite a point
of that, that the Air Force was holding back on that because
it tord the nature saucer, that had approached
it, and --
:
Well, I wish that that were
true, that he something that enough substance
it for use test what he said.

street for awhil ughter), s ot say who
made this report ormatior eceived that
ying he's drunk
all the time or he never did o (Laughter).
Well, those things far as
the statement of what they saw, when and
the measurements that they took, such are not
withholding any of that data.
THE PRESS: General, have you ever said flatly that
these are not machines cates has made or is
developing?
MAJOR TO that?
THE PRESS Have you that these
are not mac is developing?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: I would say that these
we have been speaking about in this locality are definitely not.
However, many reports that we have received and we've been able
to corr and put heir place we have been able to do so

the process trying to associate them with something we were
doing, we sa her clue that ran Now,
to say that them could
possibly be associated with the United States is doing,
has been flying in a certain reported thus
and thus and thus, and we get those tw things together and
we say something that we were d doing caused that report. As
that's causing all this.
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: We have has no
mass and (Laughter)

THE PRESS and
two
MAJOR GENERAL RAMEY:
We have airplanes investigate various reports all over
the country have ighters, but --
THE PRESS: thought the Air Force had said that
it coul send an t have them.
MAJOR GENER don 't said
that.
up last night.
THE PRESS: Were there fighters sent . in here from
New Castle both those Saturday nights in question?
MAJOR GENERAL RAMEY: That's right; yes.
THE PRESS: lack of
a track? P
MAJOR GENERAL RAMEY: Lack of a track.

The difficult part. t. as advancing the
program concerne oun doesn't
seem to have advanced any. way opportunity
to observe and the eater recurrence e disturbing things
of this sort that are actually in.existence fr man-made air
participation that ne about.
THE PRESS: I Have there been more than one radar sighting
simultaneously -- that is, blips from several con-
ne same area?
past?
THE PRESS: Yes, sir.

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THE PRESS: General, are sightings from military
personnel made public generally, or are they --

MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: There's no reason why they
shouldn't be.

THE PRESS; Thank you, General. Thank you.

. « » The conference was concluded at 5:2@ p.m. .

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22 July 1952.
2 On 29 and 30 July personnel of various Air Force intelligence
activities participated in public press conferences and radio broadcasts
to answer quest relative to unidentified aerial phenomens.
3 directed
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BY CCMMAND OF THE CHIEF MATE
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+ JOHN A. SAMFORD
Major General, USAF
Director of Intelligence
For Oapt
ARUNEY
Renmnd ntet

THE onized clouds?
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MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: There are thoughts that
influenc on this. We do know
that the thunderstorm activity wite icely identifiable
by radar because we use the radar purposes of avoiding
thunderstorns and we do have some that show the storm area
that's coming in towards principal stations where protection
is necessary in terms of high winds and thunderstorms.
a standard measurement that makes this. material for workmen to
work on.

MAJOR
sibilities. The radar screen has been picking up things for
many years that, well, birds, a flock of ducks. I know there's
been one instance in which a flock of ducks was picked up and
was intercepted and fl wn through as beir an unidentified
phenomenon.
that, General?
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: recall where it was.
I think it might have in Japan but don't recall the
location of that. ecollection where that
sort of thing could happen and I know that at Wright Field
there was one of these things on the radar -- this was in 1950,
I think -- maybe Captain James would reinforce that. Was s that
the atmosphere somewhere else to be
reflected positions where If that is a correct
with respect to the
ground eff t you get radar.

Now, the conditions that
temperature inversions and same kind of thing
for ground targets being nisplaced in altitude -- I don't
know that it is worded that they're misplaced in azimuth --
is somewhat typical of the kind of hot hunid weather that we've
been having here in the last three or four weeks. There's no
reason to relate those phenomena to those atmospheric condi-
tions positively, but
Yes, sir?
THE PRESS: tercepto the
three occasions?
MAJOR GENERAL SAN Here?
THE PRESS: Yes.
MAJOR GENERAL Yes, sir.
. THO: ESS.
. . ngs?
.
MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: Lights.
,

MAJOR GENERAL SAMFORD: Well, you're talking about
a thunderstorm cloud which is one that we know enough about so
we can look at s something else and say, "That is No. So-and-so
airplane."
:
MAJOR GENERAL
THE PRESS: General Samford. I
radar experts who saw these sightings Saturday night or early
Sunday morning. What was their what they
saw on the scope?
She
THE PRESS: Did they
been birds? wU
nE
Dak

the amount of bending.
THE PRESS: just as scope?
CAPTAIN JAMES: Yes.
-
THE PRESS; Can you get blip from (inaudible)
created by tempera ture inversion?
THE PRESS: In other words, something that's on the
ground that's reflected off a refracted cloud bank would throw
off a blip on the radar screen? +
2.
CAPTAIN JAMES: Yes. sir. That's true.
CAPTAIN JAMES: Not necessarily: no.
THE PRESS: In other have a light and
something that lacks and material and still have a
blip?.
JAMES: don
THE PRESS: You can have
without t the necessity of radar striking the soli ject or a
semi-solid, such as a cloud?
CAPTAIN. to
strike an object.